[NANOG] Re: [NANOG]Re: Request to Reinstate Feeless BGP Sessions with Enhanced Security Measures

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On 3/03/25 15:46, Josh Luthman via NANOG wrote:
> What does it matter if they are the only option within 100 miles?
>
> > there are still plenty of transit providers
> No, there isn't.  I literally just got an email from HE minutes ago and
> their closest point is an 80 mile drive.  As I stated in my previous post,
> "We have had to build fiber about 20 route miles ($1MM) to reach our second
> provider.  Our first provider was 4 route miles."  Not everyone has the
> luxury of spending a million bucks to get a second fiber option.

That means HE had to build fiber about 100 miles ($5MM) to reach the 
location where you are peering with them. Not everyone has the luxury of 
spending 5 million bucks to peer with you for free.

> Competition is not a luxury everyone has.  Bringing awareness to (IMO bad)
> practices like BGP fees is a good thing for network operators.

You're welcome to become the competition. It should be about 100 miles 
($5MM) to reach a place 100 miles away where there's another option. 
Will you be able to make enough money to justify this, or will you have 
to charge fees to your downstreams?

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