Re: IPv8 / BGP8 / CF

[Jamie Thain via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org>]

Just some of my motivation for IPv8. 

On Thu, Apr 30, 2026 at 11:03 AM Jamie Thain <jamie () one bm> wrote:

> Saku, 
>
> I am not those people. I've written hundreds of thousands of lines of code.
>
> 1. Assess the issue. Its in the IETF posting (have you read it) 
>     1.1 100% compatible segments with current IPv4 networks 
>     1.2 It must be an inplace upgrade. 
>     1.3 It must be more manageable, Oauth configuration and Important
> Telemetry 
>     1.4 No new Silicon to get near wire speed. 
>     1.5 Fix BGP cost factor, to deprecate OSPF and ISIS 
>     1.6 No user impact. 
>     1.7 Solve the corporate issues including 
>         1.7.1 East West Security
>         1.7.2 North South Security
>         1.7.3 Area addressess ( ASN = 127.x.x.x) 16 million networks of 4 B
> addresses. 
>     1.8 Make it easy to implement. 
>     1.9 Routing issues -- valid routes route tables to big, peering too
> complext. 
>
> 2. Design where I am write now, publish Assess the IETF document and work on
> Design. If you don't want to help don't hit reply. 
>     
>     What I am currently working on is peering and routing inside the ASN
> without impacting silicon. 
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 30, 2026 at 6:46 AM Saku Ytti <saku () ytti fi [saku () ytti fi]> wrote:
>
>
> > LLM produces code much much faster than you can review it.
> >
> > This argument worked in days of yore, when the person writing the code
> > had to put in orders of magnitude more work in that person reviewing
> > it.
> >
> > Anyone maintaining any open source project has seen this, massive
> > complicated pull requests from people who cannot code and have strong
> > expectations that you review it. They spent minutes generating it,
> > you'll spend days reviewing it.
> >
> > On Thu, 30 Apr 2026 at 12:34, Izaac via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org
> > [nanog () lists nanog org]> wrote:
> > > On Wed, Apr 29, 2026 at 02:03:34PM -0500, Jamie Thain via NANOG wrote:
> > > > I'd appreciate your thoughts on it
> > >
> > > Got code?
> > >
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