Re: IPv8 / BGP8 / CF

[Joe Klein via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org>]

*Lagging IPv4 Vendors: *

https://community.ui.com/questions/Hey-Unifi-improve-your-IPv6-game-starting-with-support-for-IPv6-only-networks/12020f90-1d4a-4a62-af91-0a44716009f6

*IPv6 status: *https://test-ipv6.com/
                                              Does your system support IPv6
on your network?
                    https://www.vyncke.org/ipv6status/.
                                         IPv6 only, IPv6 failover to IPv4

https://developers.cloudflare.com/1.1.1.1/infrastructure/ipv6-networks/.
 Support for IPv6-only networks
                    https://developer.apple.com/support/ipv6/
                                      Support for IPv6-only networks

https://labs.ripe.net/author/ondrej_caletka_1/deploying-ipv6-mostly-access-networks/

https://medium.com/@imanshul/how-to-enable-ipv6-only-networking-in-android-ios-simulators-8422221b0895
                    https://blog.brixit.nl/going-ipv6-only/
                    https://stats.labs.apnic.net/ipv6/
                    https://www.iana.org/numbers/allocations/.
                                 Number Resource Allocation Data
                    https://www.ipv6ready.org/db/index.php/public/?o=4
                           Hardware Status - If it not there, then

*IPv8 status: Not ready yet*
                                            20 years behind IPv6

*IPv9 Status: No status *

*Will check in on April 1, 2027/2028/2029... *

Joe Klein

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On Wed, Apr 29, 2026 at 3:23 PM Jamie Thain via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org>
wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> My name is Jamie Thain I'm the creator of IPv8. It's not a hoax.
>
> I joined this list because, as part of IPv8, I am creating a BGPv8. Inside
> BGPv8, two new protocols CF (Cost Factor), weigh cost factors along the
> routes to produce a better metric. It's a hybrid of EIRGP mixed with BGP to
> create better engineering results.
>
> I also as part of CF created Sun Tzu which is the protocol that watches CF
> and gives you a CF score of reliability.  Do I trust my partnership with
> you?
>
> Now, beyond an on-slaught of IPv8 is stupid, IPv6 solves every problem,
> etc, etc. That's not my discussion point. My point isn't "should I even
> propose IPv8" my point is what would be the best result for operators?
>
> I believe that since IPv8 solves the duopoly problem, it will replace
> IPv4.
>
> So the things to know, IPV8 is NOT a 64 bit addressing system.
>
> It is a 32 bit routing system with a 32 bit addressing system.
>
> A Routing Number = ASNs plus others.
>
> 8.8.8.8 would become 15169.8.8.8.8
>
> https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-thain-ipv8-02.html
> <
> https://l.shortlink.es/l/3ae384c1b8e2eb92749595407c5cf9b87ea3372a?u=12457652
> >
>
>
> So each ASN in the world will have 3 Billion available addresses.
>
> There is a specially reserved group of internal ASN 127.x.x.x so each corp,
> org, has 16 Million areas of 3 Billion addresses, to replace 10.x.x.x and
> 100.64.x.x.x
>
> I'd appreciate your thoughts on it
>
> Jamie
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