Re: Charging for IPs

[Tim Burke via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org>]

Cogent has good products, just wish their sales practices were a bit better! Their approach is to assign a new rep 
after X amount of time of no account activity in the CRM — this includes any sort of communication. 

Moral of the story, if you have a rep you like, just respond to their emails every so often, even if it’s with a “I’m 
good, don’t need anything”, so you don’t get a failed used car salesman like this guy assigned to you. 

> On Sep 5, 2026, at 10:38, Shawn L via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org> wrote:
>
> 
> It seems like they're stepping up their sales -- We were just assigned a "new rep" though we've never done business 
> with them.  He started sending meeting requests, which we declined.  Then he would call and actually yell at people 
> because "we had a meeting and we're all waiting for you to join".
>
> Do they really think that this will help them get customers?  Even if I was inclined to buy from them, I would not 
> after that.
>
> Shawn
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Tom Beecher via NANOG" <nanog () lists nanog org>
> Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2026 9:29am
> To: "North American Network Operators Group" <nanog () lists nanog org>
> Cc: "LionLink NOC" <noc () lionlink net>, "Tom Beecher" <beecher () beecher cc>
> Subject: Re: Charging for IPs
>
>
>
> > Friend’s don’t let friends use Cogent
>
>
> This is the only answer.
>
>
>
> > On Fri, Sep 4, 2026 at 1:09 PM Mike Lyon via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > I’ve said before and i’ll say it again:
> >
> > Friend’s don’t let friends use Cogent
> >
> > -Mike
> >
> > > On Sep 4, 2026, at 09:58, LionLink NOC via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org>
> > wrote:
> > > That’s absurd. IMHO. If NTT is an option, you should talk to someone on
> > > their carrier sales team. They’ll build a strategic partnership with
> > you…
> > > and last I heard, don’t charge you anything up to a /28.
> > >
> > > > On Fri, Sep 4, 2026 at 12:37 PM Mike Hammett via NANOG <
> > > > nanog () lists nanog org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I'm not going to say no.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Mike Hammett FD-IX https://fd-ix.com/ DNA Communications
> > > > https://www.dnacom.com/
> > > > From: "Josh Luthman" <josh () imaginenetworksllc com>
> > > > To: "North American Network Operators Group" <nanog () lists nanog org>
> > > > Cc: "Mike Hammett" <nanog () ics-il net>
> > > > Sent: Friday, September 4, 2026 11:32 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: Charging for IPs
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Cogent?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Sep 4, 2026, 12:30 PM Mike Hammett via NANOG <
> > > > nanog () lists nanog org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Has anyone else experienced an upstream provider that wants to charge
> > you
> > > > for the IPs you need to establish BGP sessions?
> > > >
> > > > I understand charging for large blocks, but I literally just got a quote
> > > > for two /31s. I have an existing contract elsewhere with them, and they
> > > > gave me 3x /29s gratis (for three different ASNs, sets of BGP sessions,
> > > > ec.). Now they're charging for each IP.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I thought charging for BGP sessions was ridiculous, but now for
> > individual
> > > > IPs to use those BGP sessions...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Mike Hammett FD-IX https://fd-ix.com/ DNA Communications
> > > > https://www.dnacom.com/
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