RE: IPv8 / BGP8 / CF

[Larry Brower via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org>]

" People are planning to build ipv8 right now."

Are these people in the room with us?


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Larry Brower
Network Specialist
Texas Department of Insurance

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From: Jamie Thain via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org>
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2026 2:29 PM
To: Joe Klein <jsklein () gmail com>
Cc: North American Network Operators Group <nanog () lists nanog org>; Jamie Thain <jamie () one bm>
Subject: Re: IPv8 / BGP8 / CF

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Joe,

No patent apps it's all free. Corp isn't moving off ipv4 to ipv6. So ipv8 is an upgrade to ipv4.

So still need to fix the issues in ipv4/ipv6.

Like merging to companies both using 10.x

Unless a move is made ipv4 will still be running the warp drive.

People are planning to build ipv8 right now.

Jamie

On Thu., Apr. 30, 2026, 12:51 p.m. Joe Klein, <jsklein () gmail com> wrote:

> This is very funny!
>
> - In 2004, very talented Chinese developers worked to implement IPv9.
> At present there are exclusive patents, but have yet to seen any code.
>
> - Over 20 cumulative years, there are about 0.5–2 trillion IPv6
> address instances, with the high side is driven by mobile devices,
> Wi-Fi roaming, privacy-address rotation, VMs, containers, VPNs, and
> tunnels. In short, this covers the ocean floor, caves, areas near
> Earth, and deep space. Will you and your team pay for the IPv4/IPv6
> change? When will you submit the patent applications (Similary to Microsoft patent for SEND/CGA)?
>
> Have fun.
>
> OO.
>
> Joe Klein
>
> "inveniet viam, aut faciet" --- Seneca's Hercules Furens (Act II,
> Scene 1) "*I skate to where the puck is going to be, not to where it has been."
> -- *Wayne Gretzky
> "I never lose. I either win or learn" - Nelson Mandela
>
> On Thu, Apr 30, 2026, 10:51 AM Tom Beecher via NANOG <
> nanog () lists nanog org> wrote:
>
> > > Tough love is needed here, and the list is not providing it. You're
> > > not being polite, you're enabling.
> >
> >
> > Only works when the recipient is actually open to receiving feedback
> > and collaborating.
> >
> > Reading Mr. Thain's replies here and on int-area answers that
> > question quite rapidly.
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 30, 2026 at 2:35 AM Saku Ytti via NANOG <
> > nanog () lists nanog org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Tough love is needed here, and the list is not providing it. You're
> > > not being polite, you're enabling.
> > >
> > > Stop supporting this LLM psychosis.
> > >
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