Re: IPv8 / BGP8 / CF

[Tom Beecher via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org>]

> Who is planning to build IPv8, because I can tell you as someone who works
> for one of the LARGEST networks in the US (both wireline and wireless),
> there are no plans here. Can you give us some names of the equipment
> manufacturers or large scale networks that have signed on to this idea?


Nobody of consequence.

This is just a pipe dream Internet-Draft like many others before it.

On Thu, Apr 30, 2026 at 3:36 PM Shane Ronan via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org>
wrote:

> Jamie,
>
> Who is planning to build IPv8, because I can tell you as someone who works
> for one of the LARGEST networks in the US (both wireline and wireless),
> there are no plans here. Can you give us some names of the equipment
> manufacturers or large scale networks that have signed on to this idea?
>
> Shane
>
> On Thu, Apr 30, 2026 at 3:29 PM Jamie Thain via NANOG <
> nanog () lists nanog org>
> wrote:
>
> > Joe,
> >
> > No patent apps it's all free. Corp isn't moving off ipv4 to ipv6. So ipv8
> > is an upgrade to ipv4.
> >
> > So still need to fix the issues in ipv4/ipv6.
> >
> > Like merging to companies both using 10.x
> >
> > Unless a move is made ipv4 will still be running the warp drive.
> >
> > People are planning to build ipv8 right now.
> >
> > Jamie
> >
> > On Thu., Apr. 30, 2026, 12:51 p.m. Joe Klein, <jsklein () gmail com> wrote:
> >
> > > This is very funny!
> > >
> > > - In 2004, very talented Chinese developers worked to implement IPv9.
> At
> > > present there are exclusive patents, but have yet to seen any code.
> > >
> > > - Over 20 cumulative years, there are about 0.5–2 trillion IPv6 address
> > > instances, with the high side is driven by mobile devices, Wi-Fi
> roaming,
> > > privacy-address rotation, VMs, containers, VPNs, and tunnels. In short,
> > > this covers the ocean floor, caves, areas near Earth, and deep space.
> > Will
> > > you and your team pay for the IPv4/IPv6 change? When will you submit
> the
> > > patent applications (Similary to Microsoft patent for SEND/CGA)?
> > >
> > > Have fun.
> > >
> > > OO.
> > >
> > > Joe Klein
> > >
> > > "inveniet viam, aut faciet" --- Seneca's Hercules Furens (Act II, Scene
> > 1)
> > > "*I skate to where the puck is going to be, not to where it has been."
> > > -- *Wayne Gretzky
> > > "I never lose. I either win or learn" - Nelson Mandela
> > >
> > > On Thu, Apr 30, 2026, 10:51 AM Tom Beecher via NANOG <
> > > nanog () lists nanog org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > > Tough love is needed here, and the list is not providing it. You're
> > > > > not being polite, you're enabling.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Only works when the recipient is actually open to receiving feedback
> and
> > > > collaborating.
> > > >
> > > > Reading Mr. Thain's replies here and on int-area answers that question
> > > > quite rapidly.
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Apr 30, 2026 at 2:35 AM Saku Ytti via NANOG <
> > > > nanog () lists nanog org>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Tough love is needed here, and the list is not providing it. You're
> > > > > not being polite, you're enabling.
> > > > >
> > > > > Stop supporting this LLM psychosis.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > >   ++ytti
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