Re: IPv8 / BGP8 / CF

[Shane Ronan via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org>]

Jamie,

Who is planning to build IPv8, because I can tell you as someone who works
for one of the LARGEST networks in the US (both wireline and wireless),
there are no plans here. Can you give us some names of the equipment
manufacturers or large scale networks that have signed on to this idea?

Shane

On Thu, Apr 30, 2026 at 3:29 PM Jamie Thain via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org>
wrote:

> Joe,
>
> No patent apps it's all free. Corp isn't moving off ipv4 to ipv6. So ipv8
> is an upgrade to ipv4.
>
> So still need to fix the issues in ipv4/ipv6.
>
> Like merging to companies both using 10.x
>
> Unless a move is made ipv4 will still be running the warp drive.
>
> People are planning to build ipv8 right now.
>
> Jamie
>
> On Thu., Apr. 30, 2026, 12:51 p.m. Joe Klein, <jsklein () gmail com> wrote:
>
> > This is very funny!
> >
> > - In 2004, very talented Chinese developers worked to implement IPv9. At
> > present there are exclusive patents, but have yet to seen any code.
> >
> > - Over 20 cumulative years, there are about 0.5–2 trillion IPv6 address
> > instances, with the high side is driven by mobile devices, Wi-Fi roaming,
> > privacy-address rotation, VMs, containers, VPNs, and tunnels. In short,
> > this covers the ocean floor, caves, areas near Earth, and deep space.
> Will
> > you and your team pay for the IPv4/IPv6 change? When will you submit the
> > patent applications (Similary to Microsoft patent for SEND/CGA)?
> >
> > Have fun.
> >
> > OO.
> >
> > Joe Klein
> >
> > "inveniet viam, aut faciet" --- Seneca's Hercules Furens (Act II, Scene
> 1)
> > "*I skate to where the puck is going to be, not to where it has been."
> > -- *Wayne Gretzky
> > "I never lose. I either win or learn" - Nelson Mandela
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 30, 2026, 10:51 AM Tom Beecher via NANOG <
> > nanog () lists nanog org> wrote:
> >
> > > > Tough love is needed here, and the list is not providing it. You're
> > > > not being polite, you're enabling.
> > >
> > >
> > > Only works when the recipient is actually open to receiving feedback and
> > > collaborating.
> > >
> > > Reading Mr. Thain's replies here and on int-area answers that question
> > > quite rapidly.
> > >
> > > On Thu, Apr 30, 2026 at 2:35 AM Saku Ytti via NANOG <
> > > nanog () lists nanog org>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Tough love is needed here, and the list is not providing it. You're
> > > > not being polite, you're enabling.
> > > >
> > > > Stop supporting this LLM psychosis.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >   ++ytti
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