Re: Geofeeds are adversarial ??? was Re: Geofeeds are good

["Dmitriy A. via NANOG" <nanog () lists nanog org>]

I'm sorry but there are lots of use cases that require accurate IP
geolocation.

DNS routing of users to the closest server in cases anycast is not doable
or too expensive.

Fighting abuse, a user claiming is from the USA, with a UK credit card and
an IP resolved to China should at bare minimum be reviewed by a human.

And of course there's plenty of legislation requiring the proper
identification of user location to either require a local VAT number, show
cookie banners, block adult content access and more.

And hundreds more...

I've looked into using geofeeds directly internally for some projects but
most networks are not covered, or don't provide them to randoms like me or
some outright lie to sell SEO IPs or charge more for rare hosting locations
without having to actually have infrastructure there.

So I don't really get the outrage here.


On Mon, Feb 16, 2026, 14:16 Rich Kulawiec via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org>
wrote:

> On Sun, Feb 15, 2026 at 10:25:56PM -0800, Owen DeLong via NANOG wrote:
> > Personally, I???ve always thought that IP Geolocation was a bad idea
> > and nothing I???ve seen in the usage of it to date has changed my mind.
>
> Agree.  We've spent decades trying to build a network that allows everyone
> to access everything independent of geographical location, and now people
> have come along with broken business models which demand that we abandon
> this fundamental principle of the Internet in order to accomodate them.
>
> ---rsk
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