RE: IPv4 Pricing

[Gary Sparkes via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org>]

????

Going V6 only is more than possible, and I've accidentally done it a few times. (broke IPv4 connectivity while v6 still 
worked)

We're extremely close to a scenario where the average home user doesn't need v4 at all. We're practically already there 
for most things, in fact. 

I wouldn't ask my customer why they needed a /29 either, I'd just ensure they pay my set fee - as a network operator 
it's not my place to question the user's setup. 

I also don't BGP peering to downstream customers on residential circuits. So that entire first statement just doesn't 
fly at all. 

I personally have paid more to have v6 support, so yes to that question. But it should be a base connectivity function, 
not an extra thing (my paying extra was for a leased circuit bypassing their resi infrastructure)

But to circle back - you absolutely can get by now without v4, as my self-inflicted accidents have proven to me. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Josh Luthman via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org> 
Sent: Monday, December 1, 2025 10:08 AM
To: North American Network Operators Group <nanog () lists nanog org>
Cc: Aaron C. de Bruyn <aaron () heyaaron com>; Josh Luthman <josh () imaginenetworksllc com>
Subject: Re: IPv4 Pricing

Aaron,

As a small operator I would ask why you need a /29 the first place.  Second why don't you just get your own ASN?

Are you willing to pay more to support v6?  Or do you think the ISP should add that service for free?

Imo v6 is a joke because you still need v4 for a working Internet.  I understand there are benefits but this is 2025 
and you can't get by without v4.

On Mon, Dec 1, 2025, 10:03 AM Aaron C. de Bruyn via NANOG < nanog () lists nanog org> wrote:

> I wish they were dropping in my area.
> I called my backwoods ISP last week (they are a monopoly with ~4,000 
> fiber
> customers) to go from a single static at my office to a /29 and they 
> said "It's $300/mo".
> I asked why it was so high and they said "My boss doesn't like 
> configuring them, so he set the price really high".
> Then I asked when IPv6 would be available and got the same answer I 
> got back in 2019: "My boss said he was thinking about looking into it 
> next year".
>
> -A
>
> On Sun, Nov 30, 2025 at 6:12 PM Tom Mitchell via NANOG < 
> nanog () lists nanog org> wrote:
>
> > v4 addresses have been dropping rapidly.  They were as high as $65 
> > last year.  Now, there are offers for $11.  Average market price now 
> > is in the mid-$20's.  All the NA ISPs have been selling much of their inventory.
> Why
> > not.
> >
> > - Tom
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Nov 30, 2025 at 11:23 AM Mike Hammett via NANOG < 
> > nanog () lists nanog org> wrote:
> >
> > > What are you using for guides for IPv4 pricing? There are a bunch 
> > > of undated blogs, which don't mean much if there's no date.
> > >
> > > Hilco's blog says somewhere around $27 for a /22 to /24:
> > > https://www.ipv4.global/reports/october-2025/
> > > but then fast forward a month on their auction page and it's down 
> > > to
> $22:
> > > https://auctions.ipv4.global/prior-sales
> > >
> > >
> > > These guys stopped updating in June:
> > > https://ipv4market.eu/ipv4-market-average-sale-prices-2025/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----
> > > Mike Hammett
> > > Intelligent Computing Solutions
> > > http://www.ics-il.com
> > >
> > > Midwest-IX
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