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Are public DNS a good thing? (was: Re: 1.1.1.1)
From: Marc Binderberger via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org>
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2025 13:13:28 +0200
On Wed, 16 Jul 2025 18:24:55 +0300, Saku Ytti via NANOG wrote:
Any amount of redundancy can be fixed by automation.
:-) This raises my question: are public DNS like 1.1.1.1 or Google's 8.8.8.8 actually a good thing? I'm not talking about customers of the particular cloud services - you would expect a well-run DNS system as part of the service offer. But for anyone else? As Saku (implicitly) stated: these services are likely managed all in the same manner with automation/scripts. I assume the underlying software is the same too on the distributed servers behind one particular anycast address (I'm not saying Google and CF use the same software). So how redundant is the DNS system then in reality? On the other hand, having some well-funded/well-staffed organizations dealing with all the problems of security, attacks and other "nonsense" is a benefit of using public DNS. Personally I tend to run "unbound" for recursive resolving and close it against outside use. But I may miss an important point - any reasoning that points to the one or the other solution as being better? (my setups/domains are for private use only these days, nothing big, nothing important, so what do I know ... but I'm happy to learn & improve) Best regards, Marc
On Wed, 16 Jul 2025 at 17:15, Tom Beecher via NANOG <nanog () lists nanog org> wrote:Now that everyone has gotten the RPKI rage out of their system, Cloudflare is taking responsibility for this event. Explicitly stated it wasn't a hijack, but their own mistake. https://blog.cloudflare.com/cloudflare-1-1-1-1-incident-on-july-14-2025/
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